Ha. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Heres a photo of our family room. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? I hope some of this information is helpful. :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). Intense seal will cast yellowing. (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. I knew this was IT. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. Which possibly suggests installation issue. The above comments are right. The wood is from Cochrans Lumber in Berryville, VA. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Anyway, good luck. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. thanks, All! Here are some of my samples. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: We will be going with something close to that. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. Thank you. Then go with water based and be done with it. Thank you for your input. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. Forget prefinished. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. Floors look VERY good! I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. Right? It is less than $0.85/sf. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. You only need an inch. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. You only need an inch. Think NCAA and NBA courts. I answered them in order. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I bought the cleaning spay and renew oil for the cabinets. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Bona Natural Seal White oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Why did you decide to go with Corian? A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! The coating should not come up. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". White streaks in floor. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. Is this permissible to use on cabinets. 3 coats in one day. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? How to keep red oak floors light and natural? I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. It was light and made the room appear larger. But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. It is the way it is normally done. How are you liking it so far? I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. AhemRight??? If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. They bring in wood from various locations. I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. Apply the second coat. I am sorry , Thank you!! That means a single guy can take his time. Most of the base cabinets are covered with cardboard to protect them. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including Alternative to Bona NaturalSeal, Classic or Nordic on white oak First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? If, youre looking for a small amount. It still should not come off. Bona Naturale will also do this. One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Don't disagree with you at all. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. Could my response be taken incorrectly? Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. A history of Savannah and South Georgia : volume II I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. Thank you for your feedback. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Absolutely, I can see that. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. I do love the natural color. Please leave this post up. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Kitchen of the Week: Brick, Wood and Clean White Lines, Kitchen of the Week: A Designer's Budget Wood-and-White Makeover, New This Week: 3 Beautifully Balanced White Kitchens, Kitchen of the Week: White, Wood, Gray and a Backsplash Surprise, 5 Countertops That Look Beautiful in a White Kitchen, Kitchen of the Week: Fans of Traditional Style Go For a Mad Men Look. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? It doesn't make sense. Thank you for asking. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I waxed it out. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. They were super rich! When I get to see them, Ill post pics. In Honor Of Design I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. 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